How can we best design bike facilities for the King William Road areas? (Project 2)

by Engage, almost 4 years ago

  • pauligee over 7 years ago
    Similarly to my comments on Frome & Pulteney Streets, it is my belief that bike lanes should be:a)24 hr/7days not just 7:30-9 & 4:30-6. If you want more cyclists to use the infrastructure thereby decreasing traffic congestion, you need to consider opening up more permanent lanes to encourage people, by showing them you are serious about cyclist safety and rights to the road.b)marked accordingly - the standard bike lane insignia, accompanied by 24/7 or 24 hr or "ALL HRS" - make it explicit and not confusing for cyclists or motorists. Painting it a different colour is a great indicator, however will additionally require a non slip surface, as at the NE corner of Frome St/North Tce intersection.c) preferably the lane should be inaccessible to cars (and pedestrians - please don't repeat the Eastern side of Frome Road past the Medical School/Hospital) to reduce the chances of collisions during motorist lane change, however this could prove problematic without including provision for cyclists who may want to cross KW road to get to another arterial such as Vic Drive or War Memorial Drive, thus reintroducing them to the traffic that has not had them riding alongside in their view and hopefully therefore in their minds. As a cyclist, changing lanes to turn right is the most problematic and potentially dangerous manouvre we execute, as there are no bike lanes that allow for it - the only option when prioritising sticking to bike lanes seems to be to stay in the bike lane as you cross the road you intend to turn right onto, you then move into the bike lane on that road (assuming there is one) and wait for the lights to turn green. (Not that big a problem, just time consuming and frustrating as a cyclist)If there is no option but to be on the same roadway as motor vehicle traffic, the ideal would be to have whole lane the same width as a car lane, but until cycling safety in the city and surrounding suburbs improves to the point that the critical mass is generated to warrant such a "radical" idea, I guess you will stick to existing policy of Aust standard width. This brings me to:d) the use of vibraline - as a warning to motorists that they are straying into a bike lane, and cyclists that they are crossing into motor vehicle territory.I encourage you to aim high: 36% of the commuters of Copenhagen are cyclists, and the city policy is to see this increase to 50% by 2015. you are Mr. Yarwood - thanks for the opportunity to submit my comments; the bar has been set in the city of Copenhagen. I hear you love a challenge!
  • Fleepo over 7 years ago
    I commute from Manningham to the City along Frome st on my bike, but I used to live in prospect and so used King William St regularly in the past. I agree with the previous commenter - if you want the bike lane to work, you need to remove the parking on the s bend past the hospital on both sides of the road -this is especially dangerous when cycling north-bound as buses and trucks etc come around the corner very quickly (and will probably cut the corner on a non-separated bike lane anyway.) Many years ago the kerb on the western side of king william Road, past the cathedral and the oval was moved out to only allow two traffic lanes, and a really really wide, unused tree-lined kerb. As a result this section of King william road is very tight; It's really dangerous for cyclists. There's not much room here for a bike lane unless you rip up the kerb (and maybe some trees!) and provide the addional room. Please avoid the temptation to use the wide footpath past Adelaide oval as a bike lane as there's nowhere to go once you reach the cathedral, except into heavy traffic on a narrow two-lane road. Many cyclists will just brave the road instead. Finally, feeding bicycle traffic into an already-congested, narrow O'Connell st may not be the friendliest option - when I used to ride through North Adelaide I generally avoided this street as it's just too busy most of the time (and there's way too much on-street parking here anyway.) You may want to consider how commuting cyclists can get through north Adelaide to Prospect Road/ Main North Road / Churchill Rd / Torrens Road safely.. I look forward to what the council comes up with!
  • Have a Chat over 7 years ago
    I ride my bike in from the North Western suburbs 5 days a week - I would love to see a dedicated bike lane along King William St as I would definitely change my current riding habit, which is now War Memorial Drive then Morhpett St. Ideally I would love to see a bike lane that included aspects like 24hours a day not just between the communting hours, no car parking as the car door opening is a real hazard to cyclists and also some educational material along the way encouraging drivers to ride their bike instead or promote the benefits to cycling to car users ie more bikes on the road means less car time for commuters and perhaps event install a free city bike scheme at the hospital.
  • mpbarlow over 7 years ago
    I just recently had a major bicycle accident along this stretch of road. I was behind a bus (because there was no bike lane and because there were parked cars along the side of the road) heading south into university (at the bottom of the hill just passed the Womans and Childrens - approaching Adelaide Oval) when the bus stopped suddenly for a red light (which I couldn't see because the bus was in the way). I then collided with full force against the back left corner of the bus and flew onto the sidewalk.Regardless of whether it was the bus drivers fault for stopping suddenly, or my fault for following too closely, this situation and others like it would not occur if there were substantial bike paths along king william road (AND O'CONNELL ST, WHICH IS JUST AS BAD) and if cars were prohibited from parking along the side of the road. It is ridiculous that cars are allowed to park along the bend of King William when this is such a major artery for buses and cyclists alike. - no parking along the side of the road from Ward St right through to North terrace- 24/7 bike lanes- extend these bike lanes through North Adelaide to link with the Prospect Rd bike lanes
  • Heather over 7 years ago
    Green bikelanes tend to be more noticeable to motorists, but to help further increase safety for cyclists I like the idea of the use of vibraline - as a warning to motorists that they are straying into a bike lane, and cyclists that they are crossing into motor vehicle lane.
  • Daccordi over 7 years ago
    Bike lanes :1. Must be 24 hours a day (You don't see the car lanes restricted to peak hours only!!!)2. Must be physically separated from car lanes with at least vibraline, or better, a concrete ridge about the height of a kerb, with gaps only where necessary.3. Must be painted green or another colour to make them continually visible to motorists.4. Must continue at intersections and not disappear.5. Must make right hand turns easy by also being adjacent to any right hand turn lane and must continue across the intersection.6. Must not have parked cars to the left of a bike lane. It would be preferable, if parking has to be accommodated, that the lane be next to the kerb and the parking area be between the bike lane and the road lane.
  • Liz over 7 years ago
    Applaud the Council for proceeding with this addition to the bike lane network. However, while I understand that this will be a staged process this stage highlights the the "disappearing bike lane" phenomenon that be-devils and imperils cyclists. There will be no bike lanes to go to at the North Terrance end - the new section will just deliver cyclists to the most dangerous sections of the CBD. I have often brought my bike in on the train and then ridden to work on Greenhill Road nearly opposite Beaumont. Navigating North Terrace to the east is a nightmare. There are no bike lanes on King William Street south of North Terrace, nothing along North Terrace east of King William. The only safe way to go south is to detour west to Morphett Street and cross east once you get to an east-west road with a bike lane (Grote/Wakefield?)