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Is this building proposal going ahead no matter what people say?
No. The building proposal has not received any level of landlord or planning approval or consent. On 13 October 2015, Council only approved this community engagement process. The results of this community engagement will be reported back to the Adelaide Park Lands Authority and Council for further consideration.
Is the proposed building needed for the new children’s playspace and pocket orchard?
No. The design of the children’s playspace and pocket orchard is complete and will be constructed in 2016, irrespective of the outcome of this building proposal.
Why is PAOCA proposing a new building and why is Council considering it?
Like many existing buildings in the Park Lands, the buildings in Tidlangga (Park 9) do not meet contemporary community sporting requirements, such as appropriately sized or designed first aid areas, referee change rooms, or player change rooms (to cater for the now larger number of players and coaches/trainers that make up and support an Australian Rules Football team). The buildings also provide very limited participant and spectator protection from the weather.
PAOCA are keen to provide fit for purpose sports facilities that also offer an improved match day experience for players, volunteers, officials and spectators.
The building proposal responds to the Park Lands Building Design Guidelines with regards to setback (from the road) and materials/colours. Improved public toilets, with respect to design and location, will complement the adjacent community activity hub, which will include a new children’s playspace in 2016.
What is the rationale behind the proposed location of the building?
PAOCA were keen to locate the proposed building on the western wing of the oval, to optimise spectator viewing and be closer to where match day players and officials congregate.
Council staff believed that this location was too close to resident homes and would be detrimental to people moving between the new children’s playspace and the sports oval, which provides further active recreation opportunities when not being formally used for football or cricket.
The Park Lands Building Design Guidelines recommend that buildings be set back from the street edge boundary of the equivalent distance to the building’s overall face, or a minimum of 15m, whichever is the greater. The Guidelines also recommend buildings be oriented to minimise the impact on the adjacent streetscape.As such, the proposed location sits between the road edge and the western boundary of the oval. The proposed orientation of the public toilets is also a significant improvement in relation to the activity hub.
Is it normal practice to have a children’s playspace next to a sports clubroom?
It is typical throughout Australia to see children’s play equipment located in parks containing sports clubrooms.
It is not common in the Adelaide Park Lands as sports areas and recreation areas were previously planned in isolation. Therefore, it is desirable to increase wider community use of existing and new sports facilities in the Park Lands and break down perceptions of exclusiveness.
Sports ovals also make fantastic kick about spaces to complement children’s playspaces. With the oval in Tidlangga (Park 9) not heavily programmed, it is appropriate to encourage more casual use of the oval by families using the adjacent activity hub.
Why is the playspace being removed from the adjacent park and being established in Tidlangga (Park 9)?
A key recreation strategy of Council is to create activity hubs in the City that service multiple generations and interests, encourage stronger community connections and share supporting infrastructure (e.g. shelters, seating, toilets) for improved efficiency.
The new children’s playspace in Tidlangga (Park 9) is designed to take advantage of the existing community petanque piste, tennis court, 3 on 3 basketball court as well as the existing oval and public toilets.
What does the new building proposal incorporate?
The new building includes change rooms, maintenance areas, storage areas, bbq facilities, canteen, a spectator pavilion and public toilets.
What is going to happen to the existing public toilets?
It is proposed that the existing public toilets will be demolished and replaced with new public toilets in a different location.
Council will continue to manage and maintain the public toilets for general community use.
Is the proposed building larger than the two existing buildings combined?
Yes. The proposed building is significantly larger than the two existing buildings combined. The existing building footprint, excluding verandas, hard stand areas, etc, is approximately 229 square metres and the proposed new building footprint is approximately 486 square metres.
The change rooms are larger to allow for more space for participant change facilities, better umpire change facilities, improved first aid and recovery facilities, better storage areas and improved public toilet facilities.
A large portion of this footprint increase (124 square metres) is due to the new enclosed spectator pavilion.
What activities will happen in the proposed new building?
The proposed new change rooms and maintenance areas will be used as they currently are. The proposed new pavilion will be used on match days providing a comfortable and protected area for spectators. Subject to a liquor licence, alcohol will be served from this pavilion.
Council has proposed a series of conditions for this pavilion area, being:
The hiring of the building and associated facilities are only to occur in accordance with the liquor licence conditions;
Hiring restricted to daytime recreation and sport related activities;
Functions limited to the sporting activity of the lessee; and
Live entertainment/DJ’s will not be permitted.
The public toilets will be managed and operated by Council.
Will PAOCA be seeking a Liquor Licence for the proposed new building?
Yes. PAOCA currently obtain a liquor licence for each match day in Tidlangga (Park 9). They plan to continue this practice of serving alcohol on match days.
Who sets the Liquor Licence conditions?
Council can set conditions on the usage of the proposed building through the lease agreement and also through the Development Assessment process. These conditions and any others deemed appropriate will be sought to be imposed upon the Liquor Licence by way of a formal intervention in the licence application process.
Ultimately, the Licensing Authority (Liquor and Gambling Commission or Licensing Court) will decide which conditions are imposed upon the Liquor Licence for Tidlangga (Park 9).
Will the broader community be able to access the proposed building?
PAOCA has indicated that it is willing to hire the facility to the wider community when it is not being used by the football and cricket clubs. Council would like to restrict this hiring to daytime recreation and sport related activities.
Part of this community engagement is to understand what interest there may be from the wider community to utilise the proposed building during the day.
Who will be responsible for maintaining the proposed new building?
As part of their lease conditions, Prince Alfred College would continue to be responsible for the maintenance of the building, excluding the public toilets, which would be maintained by Council.
Who will pay for the proposed new building?
PAOCA will be responsible for the costs associated with constructing the new building, including the new public toilets and removal of the existing buildings.
PAOCA has not requested funding support from Council.
Will more sport be played in Tidlangga (Park 9)?
This proposal does not include any changes to the existing oval. As such, the level of use of the oval for community football and cricket is not proposed to change.
Will the proposed new building result in more demand for car parking?
This building proposal does not change the programming capacity of the sports oval. Any increase in car parking is more likely to be a result of the new children’s playspace.
What are the current leasing arrangements for Tidlangga (Park 9) and will this change?
Prince Alfred College (PAC) hold a five (5) year Sporting Licence for the facilities (buildings and oval) in Tidlangga (Park 9), which expires in August 2017. PAOCA sub-licence from PAC.
PAC has requested a 42 year lease (21 + 21) over the building and equivalent term licence over the oval in return for construction of the proposed sports building.
Council staff does not support a 42 year lease and has recommended offering a lease/licence to PAC for a maximum period of 21 years.
Is this the only opportunity to provide feedback on this proposal?
Council anticipates that this will be the main opportunity to provide feedback on this building proposal. What happens next will depend on the outcome of this community engagement process and the subsequent recommendations of Council.
If the project progresses to a point where a development application is lodged, it is probable that there will not be any consultation. However, if a lease of greater than five years is approved in principle, then it is a legislative requirement that Council undertake consultation on the draft lease document. For a lease of ten years or more, the lease must also be laid before both houses of parliament for 14 sitting days.
How do I provide my feedback?
There are a number of ways in which you can provide feedback:
Written Submissions: All written submissions must be received by 5.00 pm Monday 30 November 2015 and should be addressed to:
Sports Clubrooms Proposal
GPO Box 2252, Adelaide SA 5001
Online/Website: Council has a dedicated website that provides an opportunity for quick and efficient online feedback. Visit yoursay.adelaidecitycouncil.com for information about the project and online ways to provide your comments. Alternatively comments can be emailed to email@example.com
Feedback Form: Complete the attached Submission Form which asks specific questions about the project and provides an opportunity for general comments regarding this proposal.
Information Sessions: Two information sessions will be held in Tidlangga (Park 9), with the footprint and location of the proposed new building marked out on site. These sessions will be held on:
Wednesday 11 November from 5.30pm to 7.00pm
Saturday 14 November from 11.00am to 1.00pm
Home Visits: A Council representative will be visiting each resident living on Mackinnon Parade between Mann Terrace and Jerningham Street to ensure they have the opportunity to provide feedback.
What happens to my feedback?
All feedback received by 30 November 2015 will be reviewed and formatted into a consultation summary report. As per Council’s decision of 13 October 2015, the results of this community engagement will then be provided to PAOCA to give them the opportunity to respond to any community concerns.
The consultation summary report and PAOCA’s response to the community engagement will be tabled with the Adelaide Park Lands Authority and Council for further consideration in early 2016.
How do I know my feedback has been received?
All feedback forms, submissions or correspondence will be acknowledged either by email or in writing so that you know your comments/feedback has been received.